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TOPIC: PRK & Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story


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Date: Tue Dec 18 11:48 AM, 2007
PRK & Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story
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hope there's more ups and less down to come. Very interesting to see the fluctuation in recovery. Have you been given your own test chart then? Do you actually test at 20 foot?

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Date: Tue Dec 18 5:40 PM, 2007
RE: PRK & Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story
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Hello Cloudd.

Since you came here and the two months postoperative have you made out a corneal topography?With this you will be able to compare it with the first topographies you made it out before the treatment.

You are going to see that the cone that your eye was shaped now it would be a lot smaller or even flatten completely regarding how big were your cones before the treatment.

You are now at 60 days and as i remember myself in day and especially outside i had and have outstanding vision.Everything so alive and bright and clear.Are you having this?I dont know how you are testing your vision inside and in what lightening or chart you are having but perhaps is a little difficult to make your own tests.

Anyhow,the cornea needs its time.Remember if you are having now 20/30 or 20/20 vision with time(until 6 month) your vision will be at some point stable and with less aberrations.Meaning less ghosting, less anything and clearer.Give time at your cornea,but as i say it again from my experience at 1 month i had especially at daytime excellent results.

Moreover,i know that you are from Canada but you should book an appointment with Doctor K to see you.If you have time that is the best thing.Also,you need to confirm through topography your data and the maps of the reduce cones.To see it for real and not assuming this or that.

Also,Dr K told you that after the treatment you would be in need of glasses?You havent mentioned that.Please do so.But i think you are an early stage and you wont need anything afterall.As i have seen your first topographies and your thickness i think that when your cornea stables you will be happy for your choice and your result as i am.And i am saying that,because my friend nothing is left to luck.What the Crosslinking and Topo PRK gave to me the same you will have but no one can tell except Dr K the exact time that your cornea will stable.

Inform us more and call at Dr K to talk in person.

All the best,









-- Edited by Zeus at 17:44, 2007-12-18

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Date: Tue Dec 18 6:30 PM, 2007
RE: PRK &Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story
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DAY 59 (Dec 18th) of recovery

Results Inside:

MORNING - Before shower:
Left Eye:
-Inside able to read 20/20 struggling on the chart
-ghosting not really noticable

Right Eye:
- Inside able to read 20/20 on the chart almost able to read a few letters 20/15
- no ghosting


-- Edited by cloudd at 18:31, 2007-12-18

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Date: Tue Dec 18 6:33 PM, 2007
RE: PRK & Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story
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Yes I have printed a few different snelle charts from the internet and measured the letter size with a ruler to ensure the size is correct. I do the test standing 20 feet away from the chart. As well I measured the distance with a measuring tape.


I have no doubts about doing this surgery. It was 100% worth it, my vision is very bright. I have not wrote much here as I have been very busy and dealing with other matters. I think cross-linking alone would be disappointing because you remove the epi and that creates ghosting in the healing process. So without limited topo PRK as well as cross-linking it would appear that your vision was actually worse than it was before cross-linking UNTIL the the epi heals fully. I say this becasue before I had surgery I corrected 20/20 in my right eye with glasses but I had ALMOST NO ghosting(I am really picky and honest with my vision and results). After surgery I see fluctuations from 20/15-20/30 in my right eye but there is ghosting that fluctates from nothing in the morning when I wake up to bad by the time I go to bed. With this being said, if I had just had cross-linking done then I would still have glasses and a new problem/issue being fluctating ghosting(which I did not have before) until the EPI heals(6months about). So for people ONLY doing cross-linking they will have worse vision for a long time until the EPI heals(at this point in theory they should have the same vision as before surgery).

If you have thick cornea's 500+ microns I would not think of any other surgeries. My reason being, even if something bad happened and you needed to have limited topo AGAIN, it is still safe to do it a few more times before the cornea is too thin to use a laser on.

As well if you have thin cornea's and can't have limited topo PRK with cross-linking. I would definately do cross-linking alone to prevent the keratoconus from getting worse, even though it may feel dissapointing because of the worse vision at first (until the EPI heals). This is not proven but from everything I have read and experienced if only cross-linking is preformed the EPI needs to heal before your vision will return to what it was before cross-linking. I think this would cause most people to feel dissapointed, angry or depressed because it seems as though they have made their vision worse by having cross-linking but really they have taken a step to prevent it from worsening and by doing so need to wait for the EPI to heal to see the same as they did before the cross-linking was preformed.

-- Edited by cloudd at 15:46, 2007-12-19

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Date: Wed Dec 19 10:53 AM, 2007
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Very well based talking.I am really glad that someone except from me is talking finally about this treatment.As i have said before i consider TOPO-PRK and crosslinking the best treatment there is.We are taking advantage of everything there is at the eye technology.

I agree with Cloudd at whole and from my experience the little ghosting that he has during especially at night THIS WILL FADE AWAY in the following months.And the amazing thing is that you will not realize it through the day.Just you are going to accept your bright vision and everything will be crisper day by day.Cloudd has thick corneas meaning above 500 microns thinnest location and i think no astigmatism or myopia would be left.

As for me i had 448microns and 476 microns to my corneas but almost the same result with cloudd meaning 20/20 vision.At daytime i never remember having this excellent vision.At night i can drive easily even to dark roads with my own car lights,no street lightening.Before the treatment i was getting anxious when there werent street lightening.I wasnt seeing as far as i see now to dark road and i was going with a very little speed because i wasnt sure.

People should know that with the crosslinking AND with the TOPO-PRK your eyes ARE seeing far better than wearing glasses or contacts.And this is because this treatment is giving the SHAPE that a healthy cornea should have.With no irregularity and also i read this that the VOGTS STRIAE, these lines we have from keratoconus with the TOPO-PRK are cleaned and they dont exist after.Also,another important thing that the cornea has now BALANCE.

But for me,the best thing and i am really happy about it is not only 20/20 or 20/25 or 20/30 but THE QUALITY of my vision especially at daytime.I am very happy going out and enjoying very bright vision.Everything seems so much alive than before.I r know if you understand me but putting on my glasses before i wasnt seeing this colourness and brightness.Its like i was a tv and my contrast and brightness were at the bottom of the adjustment.

Cloudd aguess he understands me because he mentioned also about the bright vision.Its very important for me this because before i thought thats the way everybody are seeing to their lives.I didnt know that this QUALITY exist in peoples eye and i cried when i realize that when i was having this experience.

I dont want to tire you anymore.I hope Cloudd inform us more and for me its an ACHIEVER coming from this far away in the world and find a cure for his eyes because this treatment is like a cure.

All the best,




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Date: Thu Feb 7 7:13 AM, 2008
RE: PRK & Crosslinking in Athens, Greece - Full Story
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3 month post PRK/Crosslinking topographies can be found below as comparisons 2 1/2 months prior to surgery.

THESE WERE TAKEN ON THE SAME MACHINES IN THE SAME OFFICE BOTH TIMES

2 1/2 Months Before Surgery:


3 Months After Surgery:


Left Eye 2 1/2 Months Before Surgery:


Left Eye 3 Months After Surgery:


Right Eye 2 1/2 Months Before Surgery:


Right Eye 3 Months After Surgery:


-- Edited by cloudd at 07:44, 2008-02-07

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Thank you very much Cloudd, The scans look Excellent !

You know some say that its people who have the most trouble with their KC who post on forum... but this can never be the case because with out you guys there is no real support otherwise. A Big Thank You for the support you give people who are struggling to find their way. Also it has to be said that there are people whos vision is so bad they can see very well to use the computer much, we must stop that from happening by just being here and giving any info. we can, just as we have been doing. We are a great group of humans!

You have great thinkness's in cornea even after the treatment, that is fabulous to see!

Here is what the Orbscan pictures mean to those who need to know:

On this map, you can see:

  • Top two images: Shape maps of the surface elevation of the front and back of the cornea.
  • Lower left image: A map of the surface power of the cornea.
  • Lower right image: A representation of the cornea's thickness.

I think you was an EXCELLENT candidate for this combined treatment, in other words "your is the world and everything in it" !!

Best Wishes and Congratulations!


-- Edited by QuintriX at 16:38, 2008-02-07

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Congrats Cloudd. smile.gif

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